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IndoManUtd Forum - Outside Old Trafford http://www.indomanutd.org Semua yang tidak berhubungan dengan Manchester United. en Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:30:56 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.indomanutd.org/images/misc/rss.jpg IndoManUtd Forum - Outside Old Trafford http://www.indomanutd.org 7 orang pemain Man.City di timnas Inggris? http://www.indomanutd.org/showthread.php?t=7722&goto=newpost Fri, 03 Sep 2010 14:45:04 GMT tadi barusan aja gw buka redcafe.net, di salah satu threadnya ada yang membahas ttg hal ini.. tetapi disana membahas 6 orang penghuni city hehehehe..... tadi barusan aja gw buka redcafe.net, di salah satu threadnya ada yang membahas ttg hal ini.. tetapi disana membahas 6 orang penghuni city hehehehe.. yuks kita bahas disini yuk.. gw pengen tau apa pendapat kalian tentang hal ini, apakah ini menjadi sebuah kebetulan atau ini adalah memang rencana city untuk menjadikan klub mereka sebagian besar di huni oleh pemain inggris?

kan seperti yang kita tau, piala dunia kemarin tim spanyol rata2 dihuni oleh pemain barcelona. nah apakah city ingin juga melakukan hal yang sama seperti mereka (barcelona?).

dan menurut kalian apakah nanti England akan menjadi juara di piala eropa dengan adanya para pemain ini?

Spoiler:

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:nari ]]> Outside Old Trafford locz http://www.indomanutd.org/showthread.php?t=7722 Pemain EPL non United yang kamu suka http://www.indomanutd.org/showthread.php?t=7721&goto=newpost Fri, 03 Sep 2010 05:48:34 GMT dengan berkaca pada Ryan Giggs dan Paul Scholes yaitu pemain dengan skill bagus, kepribadian yang baik dan sikap profesional yang tinggi , pemain2... dengan berkaca pada Ryan Giggs dan Paul Scholes yaitu pemain dengan skill bagus, kepribadian yang baik dan sikap profesional yang tinggi , pemain2 EPL mana yang kalian suka (selain pemain United tentu). Utk tidak melebar kemana2, harus pemain yang masih aktif di musim ini!

Pemain favorit saya: Frank Lampard (Chelsea), Jamie Carragher (Liverpool) dan ehem.. Craig Bellamy (Cardiff City). yang terakhir bukan EPL tapi karena status loanee dari City jadi saya masukkan saja :dd ]]> Outside Old Trafford Gian http://www.indomanutd.org/showthread.php?t=7721 Anda penonton atau suporter...??? http://www.indomanutd.org/showthread.php?t=7718&goto=newpost Thu, 02 Sep 2010 06:41:37 GMT Menurut pak Suryanto dari Fakultas Psikologi Universitas Airlngga Surabaya, Code: --------- http://suryanto.blog.unair.ac.id --------- makna... Menurut pak Suryanto dari Fakultas Psikologi Universitas Airlngga Surabaya,

Code:

http://suryanto.blog.unair.ac.id

makna Suporter itu beda dengan makna penonton biasa. Secara harfiah, istilah “penonton” berasal dari awalan pe- dan kata kerja tonton dalam bahasa Indonesia. Awalan pe- dalam hal ini berarti orang yang melakukan pekerjaan sesuai dengan kata kerja. Bila kata kerjanya tonton, maka penonton berarti orang yang menyaksikan suatu pertunjukan atau tontonan.

Sementara itu menurut akar katanya, kata “suporter “ berasal dari kata kerja (verb) dalam bahasa Inggris to support dan akhiran (suffict) –er. To support artinya mendukung, sedangkan akhiran –er menunjukkan pelaku. Jadi suporter dapat diartikan sebagai orang yang memberikan suport atau dukungan.

Dilihat dari kedua pengertian di atas jelaslah apabila antara ‘penonton’ dan ‘suporter’ memiliki makna yang berbeda, terlebih lagi apabila kata tersebut digunakan dalam persepakbolaan. Penonton adalah orang yang melihat atau menyaksikan pertandingan sepakbola, sehingga bersifat pasif. Sementara itu suporter adalah orang yang memberikan dukungan, sehinga bersifat aktif. Di lingkungan sepakbola, suporter erat kaitannya dengan dukungan yang dilandasi oleh perasaan cinta dan fanatisme terhadap tim.

Atau bahasa sederhanya begini: penonton adalah mereka yang hanya ingin menonton sepakbola aja, tanpa perduli dukung mendukung pada suatu tim, mereka hanya ingin menikmati permainan cantik sepakbola sedang mengenai klub mana yang didukung itu nomor sekian. Sedangkan suporter adalah penonton sepakbola yang mendukung satu tim tertentu, dan siap menyerahkan seluruh tenaganya dalam memotivasi klub kesayangannya tersebut.

Suporter sepakbola dengan suporter olahraga lain banyak perbedaannya. Yang pertama jumlahnya lebh besar, ini mungkin karena stadion yang digunakan juga berukuran besar. Stadion Utama Bung Karno saja bisa memuat 100.000 lebih penonton dalam satu pertandingan. Suporter sepakbola juga dikenal lebih atraktif, lihat aja pertandingan sepakbola didalam negeri kita akan melihat tingkah-tingkah kreatif mereka yang sekarang juga menjalar ke cabang olahrga lainnya. Suporter sepakbola juga lebih dikenal memiliki fanatisme yang tinggi bahkan cenderung suka kelewat batas.
Suporter adalah potret kebersamaan. Kita bisa melihat bagaimana konsep “bangsa” tiba-tiba menyeruak di antara reruntuhan nasionalisme. Kita bisa merasakan semangat solidaritas ini bisa terlihat sewaktu digelar hajatan Piala Asia 2007 yang lalu. Disana kita bisa merakasan kembali kesatuan sebagai bangsa Indonesia yang telah lama hilang terseret arus kapitalisme dan globalisasi. Bagaimana dengan gagahnya para penonton saat itu bangga menyanyikan lagu Indonesia Raya. Lagu yang jarang sudah kita kenal. Begitu juga bagaimana dengan pedenya kita yakin mampu bersaing dengan negara-negara seperti Arab Saudi dan Korea Selatan, yang sudah lama terkanal sebagai macan sepakbola di Asia.

so..apakah kamu sudah merasa menjadi suporter..?? :red ]]> Outside Old Trafford dee_devils http://www.indomanutd.org/showthread.php?t=7718 (Chit-Chat) Pengaruh perilaku pemain di luar lapangan terhadap performa di lapangan http://www.indomanutd.org/showthread.php?t=7717&goto=newpost Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:09:40 GMT Sebelumnya mohon maaf jika salah kamar krn rada bingung mau ditaruh dimana karena ini juga ada kaitannya dengan Manchester United... Menilik... Sebelumnya mohon maaf jika salah kamar krn rada bingung mau ditaruh dimana karena ini juga ada kaitannya dengan Manchester United...

Menilik diskusi beberapa teman di twitter tentang kelakuan pemain di luar lapangan dan pengaruh nya thd performa pemain tersebut di lapangan...nah disini gw mau tanya pendapat kalian semua...

Sudah menjadi pembicaraan umum seorang pemain tetaplah seorang manusia biasa yang memiliki kehidupan pribadi dan sosial di luar lapangan...ada yang positif dan juga tidak jarang yang negatif...

Kehidupan glamor dan penyuka pesta ala pemain2 Brazil atau playboy ala pemain2 Italy seringkali mewarnai cerita2 seorang pemain di luar lapangan...bahkan tidak jarang berakhir buruk thd karir sepakbola pemain di suatu klub...

Kasus Adrian Mutu yg terlibat drugs semasa di Chelsea, Ronaldo dan Ronaldinho yg kehilangan "touch" krn terlalu asyik berpesta...di United sendiri ada beberapa kasus yg menimpa pemain krn ulah diluar lapangan...yg paling terkenal mungkin kasus "sepatu melayang" di ruang ganti yg menimpa david beckham krn SAF tidak suka dengan cara kehidupan becks di luar lapangan...

SAF sendiri juga menetapkan beberapa aturan berkaitan dengan kelakuan pemain di luar lapangan salah satunya CMIIW mengenai social media...nah berhubungan dengan aturan tersebut yg paling hangat saat ini adalah kelakuan Rio Ferdinand di dunia twitter yg selalu update mengundang beberapa tanggapan...

Silahkan diberikan komentar mengenai hal ini apakah ada suatu dampak serius dr perilaku pemain di luar lapangan dengan performa pemain itu sendiri di dalam lapangan?? Atau itu semua adalah hal yg terpisah??

Selamat berdiskusi...
Oii, gw ngepost via henpon, elo udah nyobain belon? biar jari kapalan yang penting online :d ]]> Outside Old Trafford pampam http://www.indomanutd.org/showthread.php?t=7717 Aquilani pulang kampung? http://www.indomanutd.org/showthread.php?t=7692&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Aug 2010 03:05:28 GMT ---Quote (Originally by GOAL.COM)--- Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson has revealed that midfielder Alberto Aquilani could return to Italy on loan at an...

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Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson has revealed that midfielder Alberto Aquilani could return to Italy on loan at an as yet undisclosed club.

Aquilani was absent from the Liverpool squad for their 1-0 Europa League victory over Trabsonspor at Anfield on Thursday night and afterwards Hodgson confirmed via the club's official website liverpoolfc.tv that the player may be set to leave to guarantee first team football and preserve his value.

"At the moment we are considering possibly loaning him to an Italian club, but nothing is sure about that yet," Hodgson revealed, before hinting the player still has a future at the club beyond the current campaign.

"I didn't want to use him tonight just in case the loan goes through because for Aquilani this year it's very important that he plays regular football, every week as the number one man on the team sheet.

"I can't promise him that here so if a loan move to Italy could help him in that respect it might be good for all parties.

"It would certainly be what he needs, it would certainly protect the value of the player and when he does return to Liverpool no doubt we will see the Aquilani that we signed before he came here injured last year."

Sepertinya rencana Aquilani sebagai pengganti Alonso gagal total.
Satu lagi pembelian gagal ala Benitez :komikus

Kalau Mascherani jadi pergi dari Anfield musim ini, berarti Woy hanya punya Poulsen dan Lucas sebagai jangkar tim? Sedikit riskan? ]]> Outside Old Trafford Dann496 http://www.indomanutd.org/showthread.php?t=7692 Official report! Hak siar bpl -mnc- http://www.indomanutd.org/showthread.php?t=7690&goto=newpost Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:05:47 GMT LIVE REPORT.. Perwakilan IndoManUtd sedang berada di MU Cafe/Bar, menghadiri acara Press Confrence launcing BPL yg diadakan oleh MNC Group..... LIVE REPORT..

Perwakilan IndoManUtd sedang berada di MU Cafe/Bar, menghadiri acara Press Confrence launcing BPL yg diadakan oleh MNC Group..
Berikut isi dari Press Release nya:

"MNC mendapatkan hak siar BPL"

MNC group telah menandatangani kontrak kerja sama dgn ESPN STAR utk mendapatkan hak siar BPL selama 3 thn ke depan yg mencakup free to air (FTA), pay tv (exclusive) dan mobile (non exclusive). Total 380 pertandingan setiap musim akan disiarkan scr exclusive oleh televisi resmi di bwh naungan MNC Group (TPI, GlobalTV, Indovision dan Linktone).

Untuk Champions League MNC masih akan menayangkannya di RCTI & INDOVISION, BPL 2010-2012 (TPI, GlobalTV & Indovision), EURO 2012 & 2016 (RCTI & Indovision).

Terima kasih

(Perwakilan IndoManUtd -Rio (locz), ronald (abah/nosee), ateng (cibroet)-
Oii, gw ngepost via henpon, elo udah nyobain belon? biar jari kapalan yang penting online :d ]]> Outside Old Trafford locz http://www.indomanutd.org/showthread.php?t=7690 Uefa champions league 2010/2011 http://www.indomanutd.org/showthread.php?t=7689&goto=newpost Thu, 19 Aug 2010 03:11:35 GMT UCL musim baru telah dimulai, dan saat ini sudah sampai di babak play off untuk memperebutkan tiket ke group stage. So..., silahkan post disini untuk... UCL musim baru telah dimulai, dan saat ini sudah sampai di babak play off untuk memperebutkan tiket ke group stage. So..., silahkan post disini untuk semua info, update, news, results, player/team talk, dan serba serbi tentang UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE 2010. ]]> Outside Old Trafford chan7raw http://www.indomanutd.org/showthread.php?t=7689 Patrice Evra di-ban 5 pertandingan oleh FFF http://www.indomanutd.org/showthread.php?t=7684&goto=newpost Wed, 18 Aug 2010 02:35:39 GMT France skipper *Patrice Evra has been hit with a 5-match ban from representing his country* after the United defender lead a revolt against former...

Evra France skipper Patrice Evra has been hit with a 5-match ban from representing his country after the United defender lead a revolt against former coach Raymond Domenech. Franck Ribery and Jeremy Toulalan were also suspended, with Nicolas Anelka picking-up an 18-match ban..

Evra dilarang bertanding mewakili timnas Perancis sebanyak 5 pertandingan.

Adilkah? ]]> Outside Old Trafford Gian http://www.indomanutd.org/showthread.php?t=7684 Pemain masa depan untuk timnas Inggris http://www.indomanutd.org/showthread.php?t=7679&goto=newpost Mon, 16 Aug 2010 03:31:43 GMT Timnas Inggris di Piala Dunia 2010 dicap sebagai salah satu tim dengan usia rata2 paling tua. Regenerasi yang gagal? Sepertinya begitu. Namun saat... Timnas Inggris di Piala Dunia 2010 dicap sebagai salah satu tim dengan usia rata2 paling tua. Regenerasi yang gagal? Sepertinya begitu.

Namun saat ini sudah muncul demikian banyak nama2 baru harapan untuk masa depan timnas Inggris seperti Jack Wilshere, Jack Rodwell, Adam Johnson, Joe Hart & Theo Walcott. Kalau tidak salah, nama2 ini sudah dipanggil ke timnas Inggris.

Selain nama2 tersebut, masih ada nama2 lainnya seperti Chris Smalling, Danny Welbeck, Tom Cleverley (okay, personal United bias is obvious here), Nathan Delfeuneso, dll.

Menurut teman2 sekalian, siapakah dari nama2 di atas yang akan menjadi pemain andalan di timnas Inggris masa depan, mungkin Euro 2012 atau Piala Dunia 2014? ]]> Outside Old Trafford Gian http://www.indomanutd.org/showthread.php?t=7679 United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Tottenham, City http://www.indomanutd.org/showthread.php?t=7666&goto=newpost Wed, 11 Aug 2010 04:34:59 GMT Untuk masing2 tim, pilih satu: *Key player: Player to watch: Potential breakthrough talent:* *United* Key player - Rooney Player to watch -... Untuk masing2 tim, pilih satu:
Key player:
Player to watch:
Potential breakthrough talent:

United
Key player - Rooney
Player to watch - Hernandez
Potential breakthrough talent - Cleverley

Chelsea
Key player - Lampard
Player to watch - Ramires
Potential breakthrough talent - Kakutta

Arsenal
Key player - Fabregas
Player to watch - Chamakh
Potential breakthrough talent - Wilshere

Liverpool
Key player - Torres
Player to watch - Joe Cole
Potential breakthrough talent - Danny Wilson

Tottenham
Key player - Modric
Player to watch - Bale
Potential breakthrough talent - D.Rose

Man City
Key player - Tevez
Player to watch - David Silva
Potential breakthrough talent - Joe Hart? ]]> Outside Old Trafford Gian http://www.indomanutd.org/showthread.php?t=7666 Top 10 Ridiculously Overpriced British Players Of All Time http://www.indomanutd.org/showthread.php?t=7665&goto=newpost Wed, 11 Aug 2010 02:59:53 GMT ph Top 10 Ridiculously Overpriced English Players Of All Time - Goal.com...

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Top 10 Ridiculously Overpriced British Players Of All Time
With James Milner seemingly on his way to Manchester City for an awfully inflated £30 million, Goal.com runs down a list of the 10 most overpriced transfers of British players…
By Carlo Garganese & Graham Lister
Aug 10, 2010 1:00:00 PM

Francis Jeffers, Sheffield Wednesday(Getty Images)

Please note that the players below are not necessarily the worst or most expensive transfers, but the most ‘overpriced’…

10) BRYN JONES

Wolves to Arsenal - £14,000 (1938)

When Arsenal signed him in 1938 as the successor to the legendary Alex James, they paid Wolverhampton Wanderers a world record fee of £14,000 (about £7 million in today's terms). The fee prompted outraged MPs to question its appropriateness in the House of Commons. The burden of publicity overwhelmed the shy and retiring Jones, who struggled with his form in London. Then the outbreak of war in September 1939 interrupted his career, and though he played for Arsenal again when football resumed in 1946, he lost his place to Jimmy Logie in 1947-48, appearing only seven times as the Gunners won the league that season, and not qualilfying for a medal. When he retired in summer 1949 (from injuries received when a Brazilian policeman struck him over the head trying to quell a pitch invasion during a post-season tour match), he'd scored scored seven goals in 74 games for Arsenal, compared with 52 in 163 games for Wolves.

9) JUSTIN FASHANU

Norwich City to Nottingham Forest - £1 million (1981)

After making his name with Norwich he became Britain's first £1m black player when Brian Clough signed him to replace Trevor Francis at Nottingham Forest. His relationship with Clough was never good and his confidence evaporated, not helped by Clough discovering Fash was gay and banning him from training with the squad. Sixteen months later he was sold to Notts County for £150,000, having scored 3 goals in 32 appearances for Forest. Clough delivered the legendary line in one of Fashanu's first training sessions: "I didn't pay £1m for you to take corners, now get in the box". Clough later infamously blasted: "'Where do you go if you want a loaf of bread?' 'A baker's, I suppose.' 'Where do you go if you want a leg of lamb?' 'A butcher's.' 'So why do you keep going to that bloody poofs' club?"

8) PETER CROUCH

Portsmouth to Aston Villa - £5 million (2002)
Southampton to Liverpool - £7 million (2005)
Liverpool to Portsmouth - £11 million (2008)
Portsmouth to Tottenham Hotspur - £10 million (2009)

Crouch has only twice reached double figures (11 and 12 respectively) in his Premier League career, yet somehow he has managed to command four overpriced transfer sums. The recipient of the most annoying – and completely false - English cliché in history which says that ‘Crouch has a good touch for a big man’, the likeable 6ft 6in giant is really as gangly and ungainly as they come. He must have one hell of a PR team and agent.

7) KIERON DYER

Newcastle United to West Ham United - £6m (2007)

Dyer makes the list not just for his transfer fee, but more so for his sadistic wages. He joined West Ham from Newcastle on a four-year deal in August 2007 for £6m, but largely because of injuries has not exactly delivered value for money. In May 2010 the Daily Telegraph claimed that Dyer – who'd made only 22 appearances in three years and never completed a full 90 minutes for the Hammers – was the club's top earner on £83,000-a-week, and that his contract included £424,000-a-season for image rights and £100,000 in loyalty fees. When you have an injury record worse than Arjen Robben during the Ice Age, you don't fork out this kind of money on the player.

6) ADE AKINBIYI

Wolves to Leicester City - £5.5m (2000)

Dubbed by some Leicester fans as ‘Ade Akinbadbuyi’, the Hackney-born striker will be best remembered from his disastrous spell at Filbert Street for his crazy, eye-popping celebration after finally scoring his first goal for the club against Ipswich. The rest of his two year-spell was dominated by open goal misses, first touches longer than Michel Platini passes, and just 11 goals in 58 league appearances. The one-time Nigerian international was sold to Crystal Palace in 2002.

5) ANDY JOHNSON

Everton to Fulham - £10.5m (2008)

This author recalls watching Johnson playing local schoolboy football as a teenager, and would have choked if told he would command an eight-figure sum 15 years later. For a striker who had scored just 17 league goals in 61 games for Everton, and whose only real attribute seemed to be pace, this was a wildly overblown figure for a team like Fulham to pay. In two seasons at Craven Cottage, Johnson has scored just seven Premier League goals from 39 games, failing to hit the back of the net in an injury-hit 2009-10.

4) DAVID BENTLEY

Blackburn Rovers to Tottenham Hotspur - £15m (2008)

Fifteen million pounds for a player who can only kick a ball. That is the best way of describing Bentley’s transfer to Spurs in 2008. The 25-year-old strikes a nice connection, and whips in an inviting cross now and then, but what else can he do? He can’t dribble, he has limited pace, strength or physical attributes, he rarely scores, and he is mentally vulnerable. In two seasons at White Hart Lane, Bentley has made just 37 league appearances, many of them as substitute, with just three goals and four assists.

3) STEVE DALEY

Wolves to Manchester City - £1.5 million (1979)

In September 1979, Daley was transferred from Wolves to Man City for £1,437,500 — a British record fee. He was an unmitigated flop and 20 months later was transferred to Seattle Sounders for £300,00. The Observer in 2001 described him as "the biggest waste of money in football history". City manager Malcolm Allison and chairmain Peter Swales blamed each other for having inflated Daley's fee.

2) CHRIS SUTTON

Blackburn Rovers to Chelsea - £10 million (1999)

When Chelsea signed Sutton in 1999, they were renowned as the most continental-styled team in the Premier League. The Blues, through the likes of Gianfranco Zola, Roberto Di Matteo and Franck Lebouef played spellbinding football at times, but occasionally lacked some old-fashioned English grit. The solution? Sign target-man centre forward Chris Sutton. The 6ft 3in hitman was good in the air and swinging his elbows and unbeatable at swearing, but as awkward as they come with his feet. His forward partnership with Zola was perhaps the most incompatible in history. Sutton dreadfully failed to justify his £10m fee, scoring just one league goal all season – albeit a memorable header in a 5-0 thrashing of Manchester United – and was sold on to Celtic after just one campaign.

1) FRANCIS JEFFERS

Everton to Arsenal - £8 million (2001)

Arsene Wenger has earned this infamous tag as someone who is very taut with his money. Perhaps this is not surprising when you consider his market failures from 2001 where he spent £16.5m on Francis Jeffers and Giovani van Bronckhorst. The former was undoubtedly the biggest transfer flop of Wenger’s Gunners reign. The skinny Scouser, 20 at the time, had only scored 18 goals in 49 games for Everton but somehow warranted an £8m fee despite non-existent technical and physical skills. He was tagged by some as the English version to Italy legend Pippo Inzaghi, a “fox in the box”, but was way out of his depth at Highbury. Hit the back of the net just four times in 22 appearances during two years before being loaned out and eventually sold. Has struggled with smaller teams ever since, and at 29 he is currently without a club.

ehem... Owen Hargreaves? :dd :dd ]]> Outside Old Trafford Gian http://www.indomanutd.org/showthread.php?t=7665